BSA GP Victor B44

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 The Register

B44 101                 Sold 2008   and 2012   Now in N.I Paul Harvey

B44 104/B44B 4213 VS                                             Bob Miff Smith
B44 122 / B44165   (sandcast cases)                      U.S.A.

B44 128/ B44161   (sandcast cases)     2016          Mike Wadsworth (prev. Peter Magowan, Keith Canning,John Sims)

B44 132                                                                     Blackie Holden

B44 137     new oil tank by Mojo 11/13                      Peter Allen

B44 141                                New Zealand                Nigel Parr

(B44 142 ??? There is an unstamped frame with the engine despatched  in this frame)

B44 172        In Italy unknown owner also owns B44 1825

B44 200 /B44B1345   Acquired 2002                        Ad Groffen N.L.

B44 204   See B44 230 (One bike two numbers)

B44 210 / 158                                                            Soren Kragelund   

B44 216 /CDE                                                           Mike Wadsworth

B44 217 /142               In Guillaume’s Collection Sant Hilari,Spain 2009

B44 230  With 250 engine 1966 Scottish Six Days Trial winner Alan "Sid" Lampkin

The bike is owned by Alan Lampkin Registration 748 MOE and was at the Classic Dirtbike Show 2016. Also stamped B44 204

B44 231 / Unstamped engine                                  For sale ebay 12/2016 Frame/tank/front wheel/footrests/brake pedal/forks-ok Sold £2850


B44 237 /CDE 90                                                     Jerry Rewerts, Iowa
B44 238 / B44 145                                                    Andrew Bartleet
B44 241                                                                    Jamie Orchard
B44 245/ B44 213                                                     Kent Fogelberg

B44 246/ B44 GP 330      Withdrawn from auction 2012- history being researched

B44 247             2008                                                Ben Gingold

B44 267/ CDE81   Dec 2015                                     Mike Wadsworth

B44 277 / 144                                                            Aad Otte

B44 285                                                                    Chris Carlson

B44 10?4  Unsold on ebay Sept 2013 £3500. Very original
B44 1063                                                                   Jonnie Wallis

B44 1185          2015                                                John Howker
B44 1223          2009                                                 Bob Holden

B44 1224          2009                                                 Scott Ryan

B44 1300/2186  2011                                                Ashley Briggs

B44 1498          2015 bought 1990/1 Los Gatos $2500 Larry Schlotterbeck, Tacoma, WA fitted ally airbox but has original

B44 1343 Bid $6500 Enduro engine EA426 AJS Stormer front end ,restored - shiny

B44 1501          2016                                                 Helmut Sohlbach (Prof)     Cerianis fitted (has originals)

B44 1508  Unknown engine stamp B44 GP 1508   For sale 12/16 Somewhere in Europe
B44 1510          2012                                                 Andrew Jones

B44 1527          2016                                                 Martin Tuer

B44 1720 /1720                                                         Ian Ferguson
B44 1825          2010                                                 Friend of Carlo Bondi (sold Jan 2011 - also owns B44 172)

B44 1830/B44R 2407 For Sale Bonhams 2016 - has "works" head and barrel and late mag forks.

B44 1983               2003                                            Carl Rushton

B44 1983  BUT looks like an Enduro  2004               Peter Charlton

B44 2009/B44 2009   Dec 2016                                Rupert Ratio   2016 Previous plating removed by S&T. Repaired and new oil tank.

B44 2045/ 2045         Aug 2016                                 Eric Pomarez  - France  (has square barrel and head but not for long)

B44 2189         2008                                                   Scott Baker

B44 2241                                  2009                         Mike Wadsworth - now being restored - the onset of rust has caused me to think again about "originality". A new oil tank is required.

B44 2243         2016                                                  Mike's Classics (Austrlia) for sale ebay $7500

B44 2248                                                                   Alan Millar



B44 2272   2010 advertised on ebay uk in York – sold for £1855 incomplete – no oil tank,airbox

B44 2281          2008                                                  Charlie Affel Wyndmoor PA

B44 2403  On ebay from collection in Salina Kansas 24 April 2010 $8000 buy-it-now-revised to $7000 –reached $6100unsold.

Was also for sale in 2009 Salina,Kansas

On sale ebay again Dec 2010 from Mr Steve McGee’s collection( he also has works 250 motor CDE 61)

Now owned by Pat Hanlon, Hill County Motorheads (2017)

B44 2404          2004                                                      Bill Milburn

B44 2405                                  2014                             Andrew Astley Wirral

B44 2501 Belongs to Jamie van Eizenga and is in Holland

B44 2502/2502                         2017                             Greg Ervin USA  Perfect standard bike

B44 2536 Sold $13000 Las Vegas Jan 2013 Tidy, original bike

B44 2595             2004                                                     Phil Kuykendall

B44 2660             2015                                                  Steve Bright (currently for sale - lovely, un-restored)

B44 2623             1974                                                 Greg Walker N.Z.had it for over 40 years

B44 2629/C1        2015 bought for $100 Sedona, AZ 90/91 Larry Schlotterbeck

B44 2634      Mecum Auction 2016 from Michael Shoen Collection (Restored)

B44 2638     has later non-GP square barrel engine - in 2014 - somewhere in USA                                        

B44 2649    Frame only withdrawn from ebay by G & M Bredimus Luxembourg at £2270 Nov 2014

B44 2656/2656   Owned from mid-60s, back to original from period mods M.Everatt. Living happily together in Toronto, Canada 2017

B44 2668    Being restored          2016                        Craig Skinner  USA

B44 2684                                                                      Stephen Newell (still being raced)
B44 2685             2011                                                 Dominique Pichon

France

B44 2702      sold at Bonhams 24/4/2011 £5520 (previously in private collection)
B44 2705      in Switzerland July 2013 - original except for Ceriani forks Stefan Stutz

B44 2710                2016                                           Bruno Caullier

B44 2711                                                                    Mac Taylor
B44 2712       sold at Bonhams 2008

B44 2721      for sale on ebay July 2013 $15000,one of batch of 13 supplied with electronic ignition for a race that never took place, totally original

B44 2729                                                                  Ulf Envall

B44 2733                                                                  Michael .J. Reilly

B44 2745                                                                  Leonard Angerer

B44 2750 Unsold $4500 Las Vegas Sept 2013 Nice original bike

B44 2756 Bought off ebay (York)   Engine B44 2272    Neville Clegg

B44 2757 on ebay from long storage in Santa Clara California 24 April 2010 $1000 – reached $4606 unsold

B44 2760/2760                                                          Harris Turner U.S.A. 1999

B44 2761/2761 Belongs to Barry Porter, Santa Cruz C.A. Ceriani front end / still being raced  /converted to ISDT spec 2013

B44 2766                                                                        Kane Franklin  
B44 2771  Belongs to Michael J. Ritzker and is in Canada Feb 2010 without correct front end.
B44 549 Crankcases only for sale ebay 2009-11-23

Queries, anomalies and questions. (some interesting points that arise over time)

B44 Unstamped                                                              Frank Allinson  This bike has engine number B44 180 which was despatched in            frame B44 142. The engine has sandcast cases.

Engine number B44 104 is in Brisbane, Australia in Cheney #61

Genuine GP frame - unstamped gusset , but EA 1870 stamped on forging    Peter Du Pratte U.S.A.

For example two members with the same frame number; a frame number that does not appear in the despatch records or an unstamped frame. All these cases have arisen. Add in that some replica frames have been made and some road frames have been modified to look like a GP. The custodian of the register (me at the moment) is here to record not judge these interesting historical stories. I can offer an opinion if asked. It is fairly obvious whether the frame is genuine if you know what to look for. 

Works Frames 

UL3  ex-Jeff Smith ex-Vic Vaughan                                            From 2016 in a Private collection Paris, France

Unstamped UL series - post UL3                                               Mike Wadsworth (aquired 2015)

CD 92  Same series of lightweight pre-B50 type - 1" lowered used for road racing by Graham Horne - one of two or three, one of the others being made for Vic Eastwood . Owned since 1982 by Martin Smith and still being raced 2016.

B44 204/130 Alan Lampkin's SSDT winning C15 powered works special owned by Alan Lampkin 2016.

The two pictures above are of the swinging arm arrangements of the 1967 frames which used the B50 type chain adjustment cams